Posted January 26, 2017. hit its first major stumble. You can even pick it up at your local neighborhood Wal-Mart. It is a screamer, and with increased velocity comes increased range. But these niche cartridges are expensive (to put it mildly) to shoot and build guns for and arent practical for everyday shooters.For shooting out to 1,000 yards, the 6mm Creedmoor is about ideal. You'll now receive newsletters of our best articles on techniques, drops 6.7 inches at 300 yards and just under 20 inches at 400 yards. RELATED: 6.5 Creedmoor: The New King of Cartridges? It's basically 6.5cm on roides, yes. Speak for yourself only. It is also a winner as a competition round, especially as a lighter ELR (extreme long range) round on targets out to 2,100 yards. In fact, loaded correctly it will leave quite a mark well past 2000 yds. But the velocity with a lighter grain bullet and the case capacity makes for a tremendous long-range round. Lets look at some of the popular calibers. Prices can be high for match-grade ammo, but Wolf offers extremely affordable plinking ammo with their 100-grain FMJ steel-case loads. Some people may never need or care to shoot past 200 yards, while others may strive to keep an accurate and precise fire at 2,000 yards. At the same 2950 fps muzzle velocity, the drop of the bullet at 600 and 800 yards is 76 and 163 inches, respectively. Its parent case, the 6.5 Creedmoor, has an amazing pedigree for long-range shooting. Prior this Ive been an old school kinda guy, shooting offhand and making sure I can hit what I aim at out to 300 yards. To explain the nuances of rifle twist rates, you can read my previous article about, After reaching out to 1,250 yards on a trip to the amazing High Bar Homestead in Gillette, WY, I am now a firm believer in the .224 Valkyrie. I was going to ask about the 7mms as well. One needs look no further than how the 6.5 Creedmoor and its kin have fared in precision rifle competitions, winning time and again when the shots are on small targets at 1,000 yards or more. It just my rifle? Nostalgia for my earliest days in deer camp. Anyway be safe shoot str8 and God bless. ( The Weatherby 257 is also greatly favored by Western hunters)." The fact is rifle shooters have never had it so good. Some shooters have an intense disdain for newer cartridges. But where in the article does he even mention big game hunting. The 300 PRC will cruise above the speed of sound out to 1,650 yards. Learn all the important stuff about handgunswith none of the attitude. Is it the 6.5 CM on steriodes but with out the kick of the 300 win mag? While this may not be the first cartridge that comes to mind for long-range shooting, with an appropriate bullet, the compact .223 Remington or 5.56 NATO is more than capable of shooting over 500 yards with accuracy. Recoil is negligible, making it a great option for hunter with sensitive shoulders. While at the High Bar Homestead with PSA, I was able to stretch their 6.5 Grendel out to 1,000 yards with Federal Premium 130 grain Bergers. Based on the now almost-forgotten .284 Winchester, the 6.5-284 Norma was originally a wildcat cartridge and a very popular one, especially in bench-rest competitions. Ive not done the King of 2 mile thing but if I were younger it would have appealed to me. That versatility is what drew Col. Jeff Cooper to the round when he refined his ideas about the scout rifle. I have news for you, it's not ok! But as with the 6.5 PRC, there are not a lot of factory-ammo options to choose from. To put that in perspective, seven-thousands of an inch is the equivalent thickness of two sheets of paper. In the East it is rather limited. First deer rifle ever since I was 13 and I keep going back to it (37 now). The 26 Nosler cartridge was designed with the high ballistic coefficient (B.C.) at 150-grains, the bullet is a bit light, but it still has enough energy at 1,000-yards for deer, bear, and elk. Federal was tapped to produce the ammo in 1992, and so the military had a sniper round that slotted between the .308 Win. The .308 Win. BUCK DOYLE. Regarding the comment on the 6.5C, the laws of aerodynamics don't agree with you. It combined flat-shooting ballistics with hard-hitting bullets in a package with lighter recoil than the .300 Weatherby Magnum, which debuted in 1944. We could go into all sorts of great cartridges that frankly its hard to find anything that is a clear cut winner in the group. rounds to their specs. .416 Barrett, while a very new cartridge compared to most, is currently the ultimate boss king of extreme long-range shooting. But in the meantime, the Dasher can rightfully claim the title as the best precision rifle cartridge on the market. 260 Remington or 6.5 Creedmore. ), 1) no I've often read gun writers saying something like [As a kind of afterthought], "the unmatched reach and accuracy of the 6.5 Creedmoor, and the heavy-hitter quality of the .50 BMG or the Lapua, etc. I mention 600 fairly arbitrarily because we owe it to the animal to try to get as close as we can. As originally designed in 1963, the .300 Win. That's mid-range, not even long-range, by many people's standards. Your words is like a Bible. Is it under a spell? And that requires lengthy driving and an annual membership fee to a club. When loading the cartridges the bullets were only seated .12 inches into the cases. ), neither of which is conducive to good accuracy. Even at a 1000 yard drop, the cartridge range is around 210'', which makes the 26 Nosler perform quite capably at such a range . The haters claim it is over-hyped by the outdoor media (certainly true), that it is inadequate for game larger than deer (false), and that its no better than older classic cartridges (also not the case). A few years back when I was planning a hunt for blacktails in Oregon I ran through a mental checklist of all the big-game cartridges I could choose from. 7mm Magnum is what I use out here on Guam, USA. It's a quick and easy swap. At 1000 yards, probably a greater distance than can be effectively aimed, a round is traveling at 1200 fps. With proper handloading technique, the Dasher delivers muzzle velocities with minimal shot-to-shot SD (standard deviation) and ES (extreme spread). Unlike most rifle cartridges, the trajectory stays level out to about 300 yards. Why It Made the Cut: The .300 Win. The problem with articles like this is that it gives younger readers (whose experience likely includes playing call of duty or watching American sniper) the false impression that any of these rounds will simply do the trick without a great deal of training and practice. Best 1,000-Yard Rifles For Under $1,000 Shooting Long Range 1. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) wanting to hunt with it as wells a compete win PRC Im thinking it is all that Ineed and a little more. A: Kelly, it depends on the distance across which you want to measure. For deer and lesser critters, its a solid 500-yard cartridge. Its the little 220 Swift (center) pushing a 40-grain bullet! But flat? At the end of WWII, when NATO was forming, the members wanted a flat shooting cartridge good out to seriously long-range, without the weight of a full-sized rifle round like the .30-06. So who is going to tell me how bad it is. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Bullets of this diameter are easily configured to have extremely high ballistic coefficients. When I wrote about the event, many commenters called me a liar for suggesting that a .223 Rem./5.56 NATO could shoot that far. For hunting at extended ranges, the 6.5 PRC and .300 Win. Stinnett said he would take the 6.5 Grendel brass made by Lapua and run it through a sizing die until the shoulder is pushed back far enough to chamber. The other challenge with shooting the Dasher is that you have to handload. Just dont try to enumerate its downsides to anyone who knows anything, because there arent any that matter. With new( in the works)bullet designs the .308 surpasses the .300 win mag and is closing in on 6.5 ! The 264 Win Mag. But the velocity with a lighter grain bullet and the case capacity makes for a tremendous long-range round. Some much more. It shoots as flat as a Kansas prairie and holds its velocity way out there. It wasnt until the late 1980s that the Navy started looking at the .300 Win. When I first got my Weatherby, I went to zero my scope. Thats what makes a long-range hunters heart go pitter patter, and its what has kept Weatherby in business since 1945. . The Navy switched to 190-grain Sierra Matchking HPBT's. Charged with Reloder 19 and 22 powders, the round performed well at 1,000 yards during the Navy's accuracy testing with the extreme spreads of the groups measuring 10.79 and 10.68 inches respectively. With the right bullet and (as always) good shot placement, the 6.5 Creedmoor hits hard. The 27 Nosler bests the .270 Winchester by about 400 fps with 150-grain bullets. But putting the emotional draws to the cartridge aside, there are still plenty of pragmatic reasons for the choice. Mag., and the story of its adoption and evolution in that role is what really lands it on the list of best long-range calibers. While they are relatively close within 500 yards, at 1,000 yards, the .308 Winchester has 4 feet more drop when you compare a 6.5 CM 140-grain ELD vs. a .308 Win 168-grain ELD. Hardly a week goes by without the introduction of a new productwhether a bullet, a type of gun powder, a riflescope, an electronic gizmo, or what have youthat doesnt help shooters put projectiles on target with greater precision. To build off of the PSA .224 Valkyrie Upper you recommended is there any other changes needed to a standard AR-15 lower assembly? Mag. Wisconsin. Weve never had it so good when it comes to picking among the best long-range calibers to shoot. He had never shot beyond 200 yards (and only shot very little at 200). He would then fire-form the brass in a barrel dedicated to that process and then run that brass through a die with a .30-caliber mandrel, at which point he turns the case neck for uniformity and trims the brass to the right length. The .257 Weatherby is one of the flattest-shooting cartridges made. Well, theres really only one option in .22-caliber and thats the .224 Valkyrie. I understand why some hate the round, and its largely the .308 Winchester fanboys. While they are relatively close within 500 yards, at 1,000 yards, the .308 Winchester has 4 feet more drop when you compare a 6.5 CM 140-grain ELD vs. a .308 Win 168-grain ELD. Ballistically, the cartridge is very similar to the 6.5 PRC, but unlike the PRC it uses a standard 0.473 rim diameter like the .308 Winchester. Its built along the principles of modern cartridge design. Twenty years ago, Winchester introduced the .270 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum). Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Most often you just have to buy a Weatherby rifle to get one, and while that used to be an expensive proposition, its not anymore. I would love if you had any info on a ar-10 or 15 barrel in bolt replacement that would fit in my palmetto guns for the 6.5 prc ???? No matter the choice, theres no denying that we live in a golden era of rifle accuracy. The RPM does not have a belt or the customary Weatherby radiused shoulder, and it was designed to go with an ultra-light hunting rifle. Hornadys Precision Hunter 145-grain ELD-X at 2,950 fps is the flattest-shooting .270 Winchester load. Any cartridge that is enjoyable to shoot in a rifle is one a hunterwhether new or experiencedwill be more apt to practice with. 1000 Yard Shooting Part II Caliber Selection, Shooting Technique, Reloading and the Mental Game. .300 Win Mag is your ticket. The one up top is tipped with an 80-grain Barnes TTSX, while the other has a 110-grain Nosler AccuBond. Over the years the round has set numerous records in 600- and 1,000-yard benchrest competitions, so when the PRS started to catch on in 2012, it wasnt long before those shooters started looking at this stubby little round. I wish there was more talk around 308 since you've established it as the baseline by which all long range cartridges are judged. It is the responsibility of any hunter to put down game as quickly and humanely as possible with a single shot. If it makes you feel better to hate the 6.5 Creedmoor, go ahead. Used 85 grain Winchester preamumbalistic tip, No one ever mentions the .270 Win. Beyond 600 or 800 yards, however, the efficiency of the high B.C. The .308 Winchester will win no ballistic awards; its simply a shorter version of the time-tested and beloved .30/06. Ammo prices are a bit steeper than the previously mentioned cartridges, but the American Eagle 75-grain TMJs are relatively easy on the wallet. To salvage the project, the Navy switched to 185-grain Lapua FMJs, which went into production in 1990. In this article, I aim to help you decide which cartridge may be best for you, your wallet, and what you may be able to expect out of these long-range capable cartridges. I wasnt there to see it actually happen, but I dont doubt that it could have. A .270 Win is one of the flattest shooting rifles that won't beat you silly, but it still drops over three feet at 500 yds (and don't forget wind drift; it's easily =/< to drop, always a big factor). I use it long range and it does just fine. Beyond 600 or 800 yards, however, the efficiency of the high B.C. Flattest at 1,000 yards Here's where things start to change. So it just depends , but I wouldn't lump 556, 224, etc into this category. To comply with the rules of warfare that prohibited the use of hollow-point ammunition, Federal had to burnish the tips of the 180-grain Sierra Matchkings they were loading. Based on the 7.6239/220 Russian cartridge case, the Valkyrie changes the personality of the AR-15. The rifle is my primary backcountry gun for deer, elk, bear and whatever else I think I may need to hunt. It can make long cross-canyon shots when needed, yet you can bring it to action in a flash should a buck materialize in front of you in the dense timber. It happened to shoot the, ammo, but Wolf offers extremely affordable plinking ammo with their, Once dialed in, I was able to put rounds on a steel silhouette, Ammunition choices have increased lately, and Hornady has ammunition with the, none of these choices are necessarily easy on the pocketbook, with most loads over $1/round. But with some tuning of the magazine that issue can be mostly mitigated. Reloaders take notice don't give up on the .308 yet good things to come. All of those things and more must be perfect. In general, lightweight bullets driven very fast shoot flatter than heavier bullets with better aerodynamics (high B.C. projectiles begins to add up and they shoot flatter at extreme range. A popular western big-game cartridge, the 7mm Magnum doubles as an excellent tool for long-range target shooting. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. .224 Valk just needs a new barrel and a new bolt. I may earn a small part of the sale from links to any products or services on this site. I just think this article was not specifically a hunting article. RELATED: The 10 Best Rifle Bullets for Long-Range Shooting. Yup, the .257 beats everybody in speed and long-range accuracy, at least out to 500-600 yards (except the .22 Swift, and it drops off after a couple of hundred yards) . There is too much to go wrong and game animals aren't targets or enemies. Still, 2 inches high was all it needed. A rather odd collection but since anytime we have a "best" of anything its all subjective. Umm.. the .300 mag is far superior to the 308. Those folks who actually do have that great deal of training and practice, once again, know better than to take outrageously long shots on our valuable big game animals. Trajectory flatness is a function of muzzle velocity. My favorite for many years is the 7mmX300 Weatherby on a Ruger No.1 with a Schillen @ 24'' a long with the 264 Win. Mag. Yes, you can. The same thing with the 556mm. For example, the 7mm Weatherby Magnum will shoot the same bullet as a 7mm Remington Magnum, but it will do it about 10 percent faster. Q: Ron, I would love to see you do a video on the all-time flattest shooting rifle. Not long ago, Team Global Precision Group used the .416 Barrett to ring steel at a mind-blowing 6,012 yards (3.4 miles, 5497 meters, 18,036 feet). There is no one-size-fits all answer when it comes to the best long-range calibers. If I want to be a King of 2 Mile shooter .375 Cheytac hands down followed by a .50 BMG, if I want to overwatch an infantry squad either .338 Win Mag or .50 BMG, if cost isn't an issue Anzio Ironworks 20mm (yes 20mm), Barrett, AI, or a full up custom build. Since this article originally went live, several excellent long-range big-game cartridges have it the market. Are going to forget about 6.5 rem mag again? Because it uses aerodynamically efficient 6.5mm bullets it has outstanding downrange capabilities. Change your name to Karen. Shooters have no real idea how much drop a bullet has at long ranges like 1500 yards. The fact that if the .308 was good enough for our boys in Viet Nam, then it sure as hell is good enough for me. I guess because it was my dad's and the first long distance rifle I was taught with. There is no shortage of amazing cartridges that offer dazzling performance at extended ranges. The sky is the limit depending on your budget and what kind of rifle you want. But that can also vary from projectile to projectile. Mag. Mag. I fully AGREE. Hoping to hear some good things about it too. There are not many places you can shoot 500 yards. Ditto for the .300 PRC, which fixes every shortcoming of the .300 Win Mag and as the name implies (PRC - "Precision Rifle Cartridge") was made for accuracy at extreme long distance. Fortunately for them, older stalwarts like the .308 Win. There's plenty of people that are just fine a 500 yds. I have a 2506 killed a deer at 840 yards one shot !! Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. are all capable of fine accuracy and game-killing power at these distances. Want to send it really far downrange? Even with kinetic energy factored in, after 500 yards, the 6.5 CM pulls away as the leader due to its retained velocity. It honestly feels like cheating when you are behind a quality 6.5 Creedmoor. Don't even come play if you can't consistently make that shot. Mag., notably the .300 PRC and .300 Norma Mag., but for now, the .300 Win. At 600 and 800 yards the drop is 65 and 137 inches, respectively. The long range military rifles on my list would start with the .338 Lapua, .375 Cheytec, .408 Cheytac, the .416 Barrett and finally the .50 Bmg. Like the 6.5 Creedmoor, the .280 Ackley Improved can remain supersonic out to 1,400 yards. The .30-06 Cartridge Ballistics More than enough to be lethal, and it's a speed that is greater than some 9mm handguns actually fire as muzzle velocity. (For anyone who gets worked up about the fact that the .30/06 isnt on this list, feel free to swap it with this one, as long as you dont mind the extra kick. For off-the-shelf accuracy, the 6.5 Creedmoor is tough to top, no matter how much the Creeds detractors might howl. (Yes, our govt. While there are newer cartridges around, many of them are derived from the .308, and all are measured against it. . If you handloaded the same heavy bullets used in the 224V and had a custom rifle built with a faster twist rate (1:8), it would either match or slightly beat the 224V. Preferred Caliber For 500 To 1,000 Yards And Beyond: .260 Remington (130-grain Berger AR Hybrid OTM Tactical) Preferred Rifle And Optic: AR with a 16- or 18-inch barrel with a 1-in-7-inch twist rate, along with a variable-power scope utilizing a first-focal-plane Horus Tremor2 or Tremor3 reticle. He sighted in his rifle and we immediately dialed to 400 yards. I made my selection of long range calibers based on my experiences hunting, shooting, and competing with these loads. I kinda thought 7mil rem mag would be there somewhere. (This is essentially what Hornady did to the .260 Remington to make the 6.5 Creedmoor.) But the military also discovered the benefits of the .300 Win. If I am just putting holes in paper at 1000+ I'd go 6mm Creed, 6mm Dasher, or 6x47 Lapua. We really neednt measure individual cartridges/bullets because just two things determine drop: muzzle velocity and bullet B.C. Its not all hype. The third time proved to be the charm. Why It Made the Cut: The .308 Winchester is the ultimate jack-of-all-trades long-range caliber. 103 in. At that range everything comes into play, Spin drift of the bullet, altitude, relative humidity, the 9-11 second flight time of the bullet, the Coriolis Effect ( spin of the earth ) etc. The new bullet remained supersonic longer than the 190-grain Mod 0 load, and didnt give up much downrange performance to the .338, while generating less recoil and being much more cost effective for the military to adopt, which it did in 2010. Perhaps you or other readers here can find the ultimate winner! One of the advantages of the 300 Winchester Magnum is that it can be loaded in a long-rifle action rather than a more expensive Magnum receiver. Why It Made the Cut: The 6mm Dasher consistently wins in competition. For long rang range hunting my list would go .257 Weatherby Magnum, the flattest shooting hunting cartridge period, Next the 6.5-.300 Weatherby Magnum, it outperforms any other 6.5 period, The .30-378 Weatherby holds 120 grains of water and outperforms any other .30 caliber cartridge and has the longest point blank range of any .30, including the Lazzeronis. For me a guy who likes hitting steel at long range this article was extremely helpful. They each have pros and cons. Richard Mann That closed the tips of the open-tip match (OTM) bullets and made the projectiles slightly shorter in length. (cartridge overall length) that fits inside an AR15 magazine well can be capable of 1,000+ yards. Hornady 123-grain SST at 2580 fps. Just $1 per month , Depending on the task at hand, the best long-range cartridge might be a big boomer or a soft-shooting pussycat. Heres your winner. Federal Premium, 130-grain Terminal Ascent, .308 Winchester will win no ballistic awards. Among his requirements were that the cartridge for the rifle should be able to kill a 1,000-pound animal with one shot, that the ammunition should be widely available, that the practical field accuracy of the rifle, which should weigh seven pounds or less with scope and sling and be no longer than 39 inches from butt to muzzle, should be 2 MOA, demonstrated by the shooter placing 3-shot groups on a 200 yard target that measure four inches or less. That's about 55 Statues of Liberty (305'), not 20. Prices vary greatly for rifles, but feeding them is a whole different story even if you reload. I know someone will. 7 mm. Ive used it with great success on mule deer, whitetails, elk, and moose. Other cartridges have come along in recent times that are designed better than the .300 Win. Type your new password and hit button below to confirm it. Factory rifles and ammunition options are limited here, too, but based on the ballistic abilities of this cartridge, thats likely to change sooner rather than later. Ammunition choices have increased lately, and Hornady has ammunition with the 87-grain VMAX and 103-grain ELD-X for long-range hunting. Nonetheless, during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Naval Surface Warfare Center wanted to develop a sniper round that was effective to 1,500 yards and started looking for a cartridge to fulfill that role. I don't know if you're from the east, but that argument is typically made from someone who lives in the east and hunts woods. Mag. Thats true, but the bullets have been vetted. We hate SPAM and promise to keep your email address safe. The long-time standard bearers are Federals two Gold Medal Match loads, the 168- and 175-grain BTHPs. That, combined with their relatively small size, means that compared to cartridges of similar powder capacity, the 6.5s will almost always do more, in terms of external and terminal ballistics, with less recoil. Newer cartridges do offer better ballistics, but at the expense of more recoil, shooter barrel life and less off-the-shelf cartridge selection. Some people take their rifle out two weeks before the season and fire a dozen shots, these people probably fall into the 50 or 100 yard category. Nosler Trophy Grade with a 150-grain Nosler AccuBond Long Range at 3300 fps. I am no expert, but scholars believe that the 6.5 Grendel was ordained during an ancient ritual in Bill Alexanders secret Temple of Ballistics. Also look at Federal Premiums 180-grain Nosler AccuBond offering at 2,960 fps. Normas 180-grain BondStrike Extreme at 3,084 fps is new and very flat-shooting. That's why the three best rifles we have sorted have a 500-yard impact range below 40''. 26 Nosler is considered by many to be the best cartridge for long-range hunting. Just $1 per month , These rounds have the reach and the power to put down big-game animals way out there, By However, it proved to be mostly a flash in the pan. is the perfect Goldilocks round. If youre after critters deer-size and up, the field is dominated by .30-caliber, 6.5mm, and 7mm cartridges, with the best long-range options remaining supersonic out to at least 1,400 yards. I also encourage others to understand that their limits legitimately aren't limits for other people sometimes. That's fast. The .30 Stewart, however, is based on the 6.5 Grendel necked up to .30 caliber. With todays ammunition, its even better. The cartridge Stinnett used is nearly as surprising as the group he shot. With the highest BC bullets, the 26 Nosler remains supersonic beyond 1,750 yards. A rifle is suitable for flat shooting as long as the 500-yard impact range of the rifle falls below the 40''. How do we know all five shots went in that hole? The .224 Valkyrie is the flattest shooting 0.224 caliber cartridge you can put in an AR-15. Not much else to say, sorry. I also want to give credit to a couple of long-range AR cartridges that deserve honorable mention. After Weatherbys 6.5-300 Magnum did not win as many hearts and minds as theyd hoped, Weatherby rethought the 6.5mm cartridge and developed the 6.5 RPM (Rebated Precision Magnum). That handy rifle is an excellent expression of the subtle nature of the .308. Those predictable velocities mean that shooters can calculate their trajectories at longer ranges with extreme confidence. Wrong on all accounts. Mag. Like the 26 Nosler, the 28 is based on the 404 Jeffery case and will remain supersonic out past 1,750 yards. I sincerely am ready to listen to reason: Why is the .257 Weatherby ignored in these discussions? shooting a 180-grain Accubond, one of the finest hunting bullets around. Hornady Precision Hunter 143-grain ELDX at 2,960 fps. As for its effectiveness on game, theres little doubt about its track record there. Ken Whitmore is a husband, father of two, and prior service United States Marine. There are many of us who have rifles to attempt to master the art of long range steel shooting. ), Hornadys Precision Hunter 178-grain ELD-X at 2,600 fps is probably the best long-range option, but look also at the new 168-grain Berger Hybrid Hunter load from Federal, RELATED: 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .308 Winchester. Therefore the .17 Remington is the round for you. Still, if youre goal is to push heavy projectiles to the outer reaches, Noslers 28 may be the best 7mm option out there. Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. That's a fine caliber, I said. 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